Girls who should be bigger or never peaked - Mismanaged blue chips, sleepers, volatile talents etc..

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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 05:49 AM #1
Girls who would have been (or should be) bigger but for a bad contract, bad agency or bad circumstance/rep...

I'm not interested in the girls known in these parts as dodgers.  The RSs and ATs of this world.  There's already enough attention paid to their non-exploits.


I have Alex Coal and Sybil as current sleepers.  

I don't think we ever got enough of Angel Dark or Lily Carter.

Mischa Brooks didn't peak.  It ended abruptly (a bad experience I believe).

Megan Rain I think would have a higher ceiling if she hadn't been at LA Direct. 

A bad DP contract ruined Aria Alexander (for whatever time she was going to be in porn).  

This second Sophie Dee run with Lansky has been laughably bad.

Ivy Wolfe has a high ceiling but we'll see if it can be realized.
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 07:13 AM #2
Anya Olsen, Anastasia Knight, Olive Glass, and Audrey Royal. For some reason they didn't/don't get many IR bookings. Out of those Anastasia seems to be most likely related to agency change to LA Direct and she would later quit. Anastasia had Piper Perri like potiential. With Audrey she had a higher ceiling as well since there aren't many middle eastern women in porn. She wasn't able to get that Mia Khalifa type fame even though she did hijab porn and did way more videos than Mia.

Rebel Rhyder, Joslyn, Naomi Blue, Ginger Banks, and the other women who do IR outside the mainstream huge studio circuit like at GloryHoleSwallow, only fans, manyvids, pornhub channels, or those sites where the women fuck gay men. Those women could have been bigger in the IR circuit but many are trapped to those sites. Naomi has since quit. Joslyn seems to be back with that Bangbros scene released recently but who knows if she will get consistent IR bookings. Rebel still seems to be trapped there. The counter argument probably IR is IR. They doing it a bunch like Helena Price who cares where it happens. There have been sucess stories like Bella Jane, Avi Love, Kyler Quinn, Jenna Marie, and Candice Dare, but wish many great women weren't stuck to those sites. Since they have potiential to shoot a bunch more with better production.

Teanna Trump - If not for her Lansky network contract she would have 150-200 scenes out by now in her current comeback. She'd have been one of the go to black women in porn. Honey Gold was out for a bit after her suicide attempt so there was an opening in the black girl quota left by Honey for a bit. Teanna would have filled it but she trapped there right now. Nothing wrong with the Lansky network they are great but she has 20-25 scenes there instead of approaching 200 since her return which would have had the Lansky scenes along with every other studio.

The Legal Porno regulars and other Euro women such as Lady Dee, Nicole Black, Selvaggia, Rebecca Volpetti, Sara Belle, Alexa Flexy, Katrin Tequilla. Many of those women be wasted on LP/gangbang IR shoots. So many could have been a lot bigger in the IR circuit but their location prevents them from being booked by the US market unless the companies decide to have a person shooting in Europe or travel there like Dogfart. Though the women could just shoot the IR themselves like Ava Austen has been doing on her manyvids/onlyfans. Out of the four groups this seems to have the most improvement with Disciples of Desire, Dogfart trips there, and of course Blacked has a couple Euro based directors. 

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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 08:40 AM #3
Some Ho's only want to Dabble in Porn or do only so much for so long. You really dont know whats goin on. If Anya Olson wanted to go over to BoB for a 5 scene deal, Glory hole, Cuck,blowbang, trainwreck, white feet set up, Im sure BoB would only be too happy to ink her..

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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 01:26 AM #4
there aint no such thing.

reliable porn hoes can be in a hundred movies if they want and get boxcovers and onlyfans and awards and chaturbate and all that shit if they want.

on the other hand an unreliable porn hoe can not show up, burn lots o bridges, show up on meth and be higher than jwack's level of delusion, be a problem on set and all that kind of shit and then not get work. 

porn hoes are rarely mismanaged- if a chick is fine as fuck, niggas will seek out their scene- remember all the detectives on here who found Randhyee or whatever the fuck her name was in her only IR scene- that shit was like a ghost but motherfuckers didn't give up on finding it. 

Snaggle tooth, butta face Sara Jay must have a better on time record than FedEx because that hoe is nasty and now she's nasty and old but the bitch gets work.

If yo fave girl didn't get enough work it's because she didn't want it.

Period
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 01:42 AM #5
Ravenssuck wrote:
there aint no such thing.

reliable porn hoes can be in a hundred movies if they want and get boxcovers and onlyfans and awards and chaturbate and all that shit if they want.

on the other hand an unreliable porn hoe can not show up, burn lots o bridges, show up on meth and be higher than jwack's level of delusion, be a problem on set and all that kind of shit and then not get work. 

porn hoes are rarely mismanaged- if a chick is fine as fuck, niggas will seek out their scene- remember all the detectives on here who found Randhyee or whatever the fuck her name was in her only IR scene- that shit was like a ghost but motherfuckers didn't give up on finding it. 

Snaggle tooth, butta face Sara Jay must have a better on time record than FedEx because that hoe is nasty and now she's nasty and old but the bitch gets work.

If yo fave girl didn't get enough work it's because she didn't want it.

Period

There are several reasons. I kinda grouped my suggestions in my previous post in 4 groups. First group was kinda weak other three seem a bit more they trapped. Them not wanting it doesn't explain my last two groups. In Teanna case she in a contract with one company. Those LP women can't control who calls them for scenes. Like you seriously think some of them ok doing IR DAP but don't want to do a 1 on 1 IR vag only scene. They take what they getting booked for. It improving though as I said in that post. 

It aint just IR this goes for B/G too. Some companies actually book women based off Pornhub rankings/ratings.
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 02:09 AM #6
Rarely mismanaged???  What universe are you living in.  Advice on what to shoot, when to shoot it, how much to charge, etc...  You can naively believe girls make all those decisions in a vacuum, free from influence.  Then you have girls allegedly getting blocked/blacklisted from shooting for certain sites.  There's a clusterfuck of roadblocks out there whether self-inflicted or not.    

You can never quantify someone's drive buf if you put a person in a relatively supportive environment, it eliminates a ton of those variables that would conspire to thwart their ascent.  It happens all the time in mainstream entertainment and sports.  Right agent, right GM, right coach, right coordinator, right system, and boom...a certain kind of QB can excel some place and flounder another place.    

And girls shooting too much has easily led to burnout.  Again, mismanaged.

Dudes scouring the internet for a single scene is indicative of what exactly?  Dudes searching for another 20 min scene to jack off to.  Has nothing whastoever to do with a girl's potential as a performer.  And I venture to guess that if Keisha Grey hadn't had her substance issues, she would have been bigger than her friend Abella Danger.   

    

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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 02:37 AM #7
Never quite understood why she got no love. Olivia Wilder - best all-natural body in porn IMO.
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 02:56 AM #8
Coltrane wrote:
Rarely mismanaged???  What universe are you living in.  Advice on what to shoot, when to shoot it, how much to charge, etc...  You can naively believe girls make all those decisions in a vacuum, free from influence.  Then you have girls allegedly getting blocked/blacklisted from shooting for certain sites.  There's a clusterfuck of roadblocks out there whether self-inflicted or not.    

You can never quantify someone's drive buf if you put a person in a relatively supportive environment, it eliminates a ton of those variables that would conspire to thwart their ascent.  It happens all the time in mainstream entertainment and sports.  Right agent, right GM, right coach, right coordinator, right system, and boom...a certain kind of QB can excel some place and flounder another place.    

And girls shooting too much has easily led to burnout.  Again, mismanaged.

Dudes scouring the internet for a single scene is indicative of what exactly?  Dudes searching for another 20 min scene to jack off to.  Has nothing whastoever to do with a girl's potential as a performer.  And I venture to guess that if Keisha Grey hadn't had her substance issues, she would have been bigger than her friend Abella Danger.   

    

This is porn. Porn is a girl shows up and gets fucked. Yeah she coulda done mo scenes and she coulda got mo boxcovers but if a chick is hot and reliable she gonna get work. 

That's it. 

maybe she won't do IR especially if she shoots for Derek Hay but that don't stop them from being big. the agent argument don't make any sense to me. what kind of agent tells a hoe not to shoot? an agent who don't like money? 

Girls getting blocked from a site rarely happens unless someone done fucked up and even then, there's still a million places to shoot. 

None of this argument makes sense- agents and producers don't make money if they don't churn the hoe out, so it makes sense for them to put their finest hoes on full speed ahead and if they shoot a fuck ton. 

Now keep in mind 70% of all porn hoes retire in less than three years, so the being shot out argument makes no sense to me. If someone is still paying for her to shoot its because they think someone wants to see it. Brazzers got a stable of hoes that been shooting for ten years. You mean people aint bored of Madison Ivy yet?

Don't confuse Lamar Jackson with Keisha Grey. QB'ing is much mo special than sucking dick.
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 03:11 AM #9
Blake Rose.  Goddamn she woulda been great in the Blacked era.
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 03:42 AM #10
Blake Rose and Alannah Rae in the Blacked era...whew.

^^You have a weird understanding on the workings of the porn industry and the entertainment industry writ large...the power of agents (a la LA Direct and their suffocating contracts), personal issues like boyfriends/suitcase pimps, bad timing etc...  You think being repped by Spiegler is the same as self-booking?  It's not even close.  Believe what you want, but girls that go nuclear aren't just blowing up because they decided to stay in porn for more than 2 years.  
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Posted 06 Jan 2020 - 04:30 AM #11
I don't follow that shit enough to know or care about it.  I just wish she had come along a few years later.